Category: philosophy/religion topics
Marc Grizzard, the pastor of Amazing Grace Baptist Church in Canton, North Carolina, says that he and his congregation plan to burn Bibles on Halloween. He says that the first King James translation of the Bible is the only true declaration of God’s word, and that all others are “satanic”.
This will also include books by Christian authors.
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watched the youtube news report - and wow. But the world is filled with all kinds.
For the record, I only use the King James Bible in my reading and preaching. However, these people are extreme cracked pots, so please don't associate all Christians with these people.
I agree with the burning of the bibles, but I think they should go further and burn all versions.
The bible was written and altered by man so cannot be taken as the true word of God. All versions of it are written in such a way, as to make it possible for people who understand them to use them to manipulate and mislead those who don't understand them.
The same could be said about many other books, and they too should be burned.
The true word of God can be found in the kind deeds of all mankind, and when people feel that they need God's help, they should seek it not from a book, but from God himself.
I have to agree with Jesse don't think that all Christians are like this. Cause we're not. I should have said that when I posted the post but it didn't cross my mind that people might think that when reading it.
Oh sorry I did not clarify - I definitely recognized those to be out there - extremist types. Btw I like Senior's comment on manipulation of the word of god and people... and to look for god in the actions of people rather than a book used to manipulate for political and or other types of gain.
That's insane, and the reason people hate and fear religion. I too believe the King James Version is "apparently" the closest to the truth as far as translation, but that's just rediculous! I think someone's taking their mission in life just a lot too seriously
Yeah, the king james version, which was translated from latin, which was translated from greek, which was translated from hebrew, which was translated from dozens of languages, including but not limited to aramaic, arabic, egyptian, sumerian, and I could go on and on. All of which have words that have no translation into other languages, hebrew especially. Hebrew has several words that do not translate into greek, and greek has several words that have no counterpart in latin. So obviously, the king james version, which was created by a king who was angry at the church, thatss the catholic church, and who admitted in his own writings that he ordered alterations to the bible to fit his religious views, is obviously the closest. I mean there no other possible choice. How could you possibly not think that a sect created in 1892 at the earliest, could possibly have more historical and theologic knowledge, then a religion that has been around for nearly two thousand years? I mean, screw logic and data, what do they matter? Its not like we're talking about something that happened two thousand years ago, that isn't historical in nature whatsoever.
research people, learn about things before you claim to have an opinion on it. the reason the king james version of the bible is so popular, is because it was the version that went to the press first, literally, it was the first book ever typed, and so it got popular. Thats it.
the king james version of the bible was printed in 1611 actually, and yes, i think it was minipulated to suit one man's opinion. I personally cant stand that crap. I am trying to learn more about pagan paths and such because christianity is frankly ticking me off with the you have to go by what we say there is no free will there is no choice abortion for example. I will not have an abortion, but what in the world gives me a right to say someone else cant? Gay marriage. its there choice. i am straight yes, but what right do i have to take away someone's free will?
books should not be burned!!!! never ever ever!!!!! the knowledge they contain is what separates us fromm ignorance and the dark ages. if we don't agree with something, then don't read it. burning is a total disrespect to knowledge.
actually the geneva bible is the closest to the original sources. it's also very awkward and boring as can be. king james was slanted toward a dude who thought he was god incarnate on earth.
wow, just wow! It shouldn't matter what version of the bible you read as long as you're getting the message
Wow.
The link to you tube was cool for a news flash.
Personally, I wouldn't burn a book unless I was really cold. I guess once you've reached that point, you start burning the ones you like the least first, just in case it warms up.
I'd do what they did in the day after tomorrow. If you have to burn books, burn books on tax law.
well personally i am like Jesse. I read and do my teaching from the KING JAMES VERSION of the bible. I think that is as close to the inspired word of god that we have. However I will not say get rid of all other translations. there are people that simply cant grasp a hold of the kjv because they wont study so i can see where a modern day version might get in their hands and lead them to the scriptures.
Now I will go on to say that the sexist bible or the mans bible and or the woman's bible I have issue with. How ever they are personal issues. i don't know how anyone can take out he or she and still get male and female.
I personally believe that anyone that destroys GOD"S word will stand judgement for it.
I'm in agreement with those who say that the King James Version is slanted and can't truly be close to the original. Of interest here is the Septuagint, which is the oldest known translation of the Hebrew version of the Old Testament. I'm not a Biblical scholar, nor am I even a christian or monotheist, but this version has always intrigued me, because it contains things that the newer versions don't..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint
As for burning books, I'm not really sure how I feel. The ancient Christians burned alot of valuable and sacred texts. On the other hand, I have to agree with Senior in that The Bible has been purposefully misinterpreted and taught incorrectly in order to manipulate people. While I see no harm in seeking help from a sacred or even from a plain inspirational text, and while I certainly encourage the study of such texts for those who take their religion seriously (assuming they exist in that faith), I think communication with the deities or deity of choice is the best way to get assistance and to truly learn.
Um hello? So if someone wants a version that they understand better than the KJV, they read something satanic? Excuse me, how can it be satanic if the message is the same? And why would they just do that on Haloween? This is going totally against christianity, and is disgusting. If I, being a non-English native, want to read the bible but don't like to be overwhelmed by old English, does that make me read satanic stuff? How can satanic stuff talk about Jesus, quote his teachings and tell about god's amazing works? Isn't that somewhat contradictory? They need their brain examined. I'm sorry but that's stupid.
as far as i'm concerned, in this day when the bible is not hardly ever read, arguing about which one is best is really silly. as long as someone is reading and discussing what they've seen, that is the important thing. personally, I read both the NIV and KJV versions. then i pray about what i've seen.
Agreed. I have a lot of quibbles with the Message, since it is a complete paraphrase and not a translation, and I do prefer the KJV, but I have studied and learned from the NKJV and NIV just the same...
I can read Spanish at the college level so have actually read some texts from the Spanish Bibles on BibleGateway, and guess what: the meanings of some words are different, some passages and the like, at least subtly so. All that to say it's not really contradictory it's just an expression in a different language. Why the angophilic perspective on this, I wonder? England, well the British Aisles actually, were the last to be conquered by Rome and the last to be Christianized of the old world.
And, if the KJV were the best, is that to throw out the Dead Sea Scrolls which have influenced modern versions?
Many issues of faith confuse me and I find a lot of pieces missing. That doesn't mean the faith is invalidated, but it's hard to have a strong conviction like this about a particular text with so much missing data. If I were to do that as an engineer, I'd be fired, you all would have no confidence in anything I told you as a professional opinion, and you all would be right.
But all of that is intellectual exercise, academic I guess, without any concrete value.
The real problem here is the toxic combination of hate, crowds and fire. Whether it's this group burning Bibles, the Buddhist monks in the 13th century burning Japanese texts on their mission to institute a religion in a country which for all intents and purposes previously had none, or whether it's the village witch burnings in pre-colonized India in the 17th century, human beings have this almost addictive tendency once exposed to this combination to go nuts. It's almost like crack.Maybe it's the utter destruction of property, maybe it's conquering something I don't know but I imagine it's extremely primitive. And, I would submit, dangerous. Over the years, book burnings have more often than not accompanied or started riots, ended up in the killings of people, even further property destruction. And all for the illusion that the crowd is doing something beneficial. Just like popping speed, they get to feeling invincible for awhile but the come-down is inevitable. In other words, when the party's over the hangover starts.
Rather than targeting a religion or even a sect or inclination like fundamentalism the real target should be those who incite this sort of disaster.
Wonder what the follow-up was? Naturally we didn't have populations destroyed in this instance, but not every time you do uppers do you have a bad experience.
no books should be burnt...
however bible translations to not effect me as i'm an athest, but personally I don't know how King James knew enough to know that his translation was the right and prppper.